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Compassion misplaced
by Bonnie Wheeler
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Dear Editor:

A recent letter by Ron Murray (among many) was very interesting but smacks heavily of ad hominem and not enough fact.

Although slavery was accepted in the United States early on in history it ended long ago, which may come as a surprise to Mr. Murray. The transport of slaves from Africa to the US was stopped in 1808 and in 1865 was officially abolished by a Republican President. Although we should never forget mistakes of the past so as not to repeat them we have too many problems now to dwell on them. We got ourselves into a debacle by electing a president out of compassion and sentiment rather than common sense.

Obama  was elected to carry out the wishes of the people but instead he rides rough shod with his own agendas and to make matters worse we currently have a Speaker of the House who has just advocated an investigation into those who exercise their freedom of speech. She was angered at those who question the proposed building of a Muslim Mosque near the site of 9-11 in which 3000 innocent people were murdered by Muslim extremists. Her remark is an insult to those who lost loved ones there. This administration has been the most corrupt and anti-American administration that we have ever had the misfortune to elect.

We were promised openness - we got deals behind closed doors. We were promised unity - we got division like we have never seen before. We were promised a “draining of the swamp” We have corruptness and dirty politics unlike any other (except in Chicago). Be of good cheer, however - November will soon be here and we can actually ‘drain the swamp’ of some of the insanity that has taken over Washington.  

Bonnie Wheeler

Andrews, SC
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ksw011310
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September 03, 2010
What I'm not understanding is how all of you moral, staunch Conservatives are living in such a corrupt Democratic county. You guys ever vote or just spend all your time posting comments on here?
jtilley
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August 31, 2010
"Practically 100% of the acts of terror around the globe are committed in the name of Islam".

Spreading more ignorance I see. The majority of worldwide terrorist acts are carried out by nationalist groups, not Islamic separatists. That's a fact.

Read a book besides the Bible sometime...you might learn something useful. And if you're wondering why I'm going back to the Bible thing, only someone who 'lived' in that house would so easily stereotype the Islamic nation as 'terrorists'. More non-Muslims commit terrorist acts than Muslims by a long shot.
telltales
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August 30, 2010
Bonnie, with all the respect that is due you, I have to respond to a recent post you wrote. Now I think I finally get it, Christ does not walk over the will of the people "if" it is your people. Going by your logic then you should "know" that God's will was done with the election of President Obama. Remember please, Christ does not walk over the will of the people (your words).
bonniewheeler
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August 29, 2010
Tell, with all due respect, our nation is not making progress - it's headed into the same situation that caused our Founders to exit their own countries and come here. The loss of individual freedoms, the slowly losing of our Godly heritage, the very principles the nation was founded on. As I've said before. Our indiviudal freedoms are given by God and government has no right to restrict them.
telltales
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August 28, 2010
Bonnie, the subject of President Obama's religion nd his beliefs in a communist system has been discussed ad nauseam in the numerous posts that you have written. The differences that we have are greater than just liberal or conservative viewpoints. Where you see everything as an attack on American values, I see a nation moving ahead while your pathetic groups are washed up on the shores of despair. The economy is moving ahead albeit too slowly, but it is moving.

The argument that is made over the wisdom of building a Mosque near ground Zero vs. the right to build is the same argument that can be made about the Glenn Beck and the neo-cons holding a rally on the anniversary of Dr. Kings "I Have a Dream " speech. They have the right to rally but it is totally the wrong place at the wrong time.

ThePatriot
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August 26, 2010
DCaudle - the 9/11 act of terror was committed in the name of Islam. Practically 100% of the acts of terror around the globe are committed in the name of Islam. You don't hear a tremendous amount of criticism from the "moderate" elements in Muslim society with respect to these global acts of terror. You certainly don't have to take these inconvenient facts seriously, but there are many Americans who do...and thankfully so.

You can keep on watching Spiderman with no worries...others will protect your freedom...

telltales
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August 26, 2010
Bonnie, the title of Karl Rove's book tells it all. Courage and Consequences:My Life as a Conservative in the Fight. This should be a real revealing book that will strongly support the President Bush agenda. This is Karl Rove's version of the facts. Maybe he will explain the failed policies of Bush's economic plans.
bonniewheeler
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August 26, 2010
Tell I never try to use sympathy or flattery to sway someone to my way of thinking - I try to stick with facts. I avoid fallacy altogether.

I don't even read fiction. My reading material consists of biographies and history.

I am in the process now of reading Karl Rove's 'Courage and Consequences'

And Winston Churchill's 'The Gathering Storm' is a great book, as well It is the history leading up to WW11 It explains how sometimes avoiding pre-emptive action can be detrimental to a nation. Everyone needs to read that one.

I realize that sometimes I inadvertently leave out a word or make mistakes in my writing but I do try to keep my facts straight.
DCaudle
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August 26, 2010
Wow, the level of base ignorance on display here is astounding. Islam did not commit an act of terror, 19 terrorists did. I'm pity the folks who are so angry at the wrong people.

Oh, I do recall watching a grown man read a children's book for several minutes after being informed of the attacks. Odd, that.

The community center will go up, life will go on and you will continue to be able to post your fallacy-based observations on the ol' DJ letters page.
telltales
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August 25, 2010
Bonnie, you accuse Ron of Ad hominem, but you too are guilty of Ad hominem Tu quoque.
bonniewheeler
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August 25, 2010
Patriot - I'll have to admit it's still a mystery to me. No one else, white or black with no experience,no accomplishments and as unknown could have ever won. I'm still trying to figure it out.

Hamlet, this country has never been in a quandry such as this. Voters didn't have a clue about this man when they voted for him. They are now seeing the real Obama and the more they see the less they like.

Needless to say, the change Obama voters expected has been a complete failure.

It usually takes about ten years after a president leaves office for Americans to realize his accomplishments but with ex- President Bush it took one year for his popularity to began climbing.

Bocephus
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August 25, 2010
The funny thing, is that if Christians wanted to build a church near Muslims, the Christians would be forced to move elsewhere. Christians want to say a prayer in public and ONE person gets to rule over the majority. Why can't Christians have their freedom just as everyone else does? Obama says he's a Christian? I think not. A true Christian would not have said he would not endorse the National Day of Prayer. He's a show off Christian. If it makes him look good politically, he will do it. Don't let it fool ya, the Muslims know what they are hurting people by wanting to build near the 9/11 area. They want to stomp in the innocent blood that stains those grounds. Question, who of you would appreciate someone throwing trash on a loved ones grave or urinating on the grave? You know good and well you would want to go and kick some butt over it! But guess what? There are alot of Muslims who have recently heard the gospel of Jesus Christ and have turned to Christianity. Yall all can get mad and shoot me down with your postings, but I don't care. One day the one God in Heaven above WILL put a stop to all the earthly sins and then there will be those who will regret their actions. Just as Noah preached to the people to come into the ark and they didn't believe, then sadly they were drowned as the waters rose. You might think this is preaching, but so what? God will prevail, and so will the Christians. C'mon and be safe and get on the ark before the rain comes. If you don't wanna come along, pepare to face the consequences.
Hamletresident
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August 25, 2010
Obama was elected by the democratic and independent voters of this country to guide this country out of the disastrous mess made by G. Bush and the republican party! So far he is doing an excellent job despite the efforts of Fox News,the tea party and other right wing republican nuts!
ThePatriot
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August 25, 2010
Bonnie - I rarely disagree with you, but I do think a contributing factor in many liberal voters' minds in 2008 when they cast their vote for Obama was to assuage "white guilt." (this exists primarily in the minds of liberals because they tend to view citizens with respect to what group they belong: minorities, Hispanics, the poor, etc). They favor class politics; conservatives tend to see people as Americans, as individuals.

I also think there were many sincere people who voted for Obama because they thought it would usher in a post-racial America - something we desperately need, but alas, did not get. This was another thing that Rush was correct about. This administration is obsessed with race.

Many white liberals do experience the guilt complex with respect to blacks because many (not most) view America as an inherently flawed country. So I do think it was a factor; you have to admit there weren't too many other good reasons to vote for him. No experience, history of radical associations, very liberal voting record...voting present 137 times in the Illinois Senate - some courage, huh?
bonniewheeler
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August 25, 2010
ksw011310 - I was responding to Murray’s letter of ad hominem. In other words Ron was trying to gain sympathy for his liberal cause from African Americans by inserting slavery into his letter which has nothing to do with issues of today. I agree that to believe that obama was elected because Americans felt guilty about slavery is ridiculous.

And I said nothing about Obama favoring or disfavoring the mosque
ThePatriot
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August 25, 2010
The Ground Zero mosque is not about promoting tolerance or outreach. If so, plans to relocate it would already have been annouced. And the objections to the Ground Zero mosque are not about intolerance. There are already hundreds of mosques in New York and thousands all across America. Freedom of religion is alive and well in this country - unless you are a Christian...

Ditty and DCaudle - the First Amendment even protects ignorant and uninformed speech such as yours...

Gadsden - do I know you?
gadsden
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August 25, 2010
bonnie--keep on hammerin' 'em. they can't stand it. little pigs just keep on squealing. they can't figure out how a conservative can be anything other than a republican. not me. i'm an independent and proud of it. i can think for myself---i don't need a dem or repub to tell me right from wrong. got a little something inside that tells me that.
ksw011310
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August 25, 2010
Without even going near the argument that Obama was elected because white Americans felt guilty for slavery (for it is a ridiculous argument, and why is everything always about slavery for you Bonnie?), let me approach the very controversial topic of the Muslim Cultural Center near Ground Zero. First of all, the President didn't say he supported the decision, he said they had a right to build there, which they do. Any church or synagogue who wanted to cough up the funds to build there would have that same right. Secondly, there were plenty people of the Muslim faith who died in those buildings on 9/11 who hadn't highjacked a plane. We didn't have 3,000 Baptists wiped out in one day. Finally, my husband who walked out the World Trade Center thirty minutes before the first plane hit it and lost friends acquaintances has made the most sense when it comes to Ground Zero. Nothing should be built on that land. It is now a place of memorial and remebrance to the people lost on one of the bleakest days in US history. He feels the only thing that should be there is the memorial itself and I imagine many New Yorkers feel in a similar way. Not all Muslims are evil. Blaming every Muslim you cross paths with for 9/11 is like blaming every Japanese-American for Pearl Harbor. Granted all this emotion and passion comes from a good place, because nine years later we're all still healing from what happened, especially the ones who were there.
MisstheoldUSA
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August 25, 2010
To DCaudle & Dittybopper: YES, there is a good reason NOT to put a mosque at ground zero! It was muslim terrorists who murdered all those people at that site, not the people at the strip club or anybody else near the site. Putting a mosque there would be like somebody murdering one of your family members and then moving in your house with you to taunt you about it. There is a limit to what people can take.
bonniewheeler
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August 25, 2010
The building of the Mosque just proves the lack of compassion by Muslims. And you who approve, sre showing a lack of compassion as well.

No one says they don't have the legal right to build there- it's just showing disrespect for those who died in the 9-11 and is an insult to their families
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