Are you the Mr Lyerly whos son is passed away 2002?

mkc48

I agree with everything you said, and sometimes I forget our mission. I just get upset when I see people in this day and time openly defy and deny our Lord Jesus Christ.

I will in the future try to love people to christ, and stop being critical and judgmental. I do, however believe that we should be aware of our surroundings.

I believe in God and country and that every able bodied person should work and contribute to the good of the group. Our nation will not survive with so many riding in the wagon and so few willing to push!

osamaobama,

The call of those who love Jesus Christ and who have been saved by His grace is not to judge and moralize. We have been called to tell others about what Jesus did for us on the Cross out of God's unending love and mercy for us. Sometimes as Christians I think we feel "free" to judge others, to shake our fingers in others faces and say "you should be living like me." That is when we most particularly need to remember "for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God" Romans:3:23. We need to stop a minute and think about where we fall short ourselves. I believe that calling someone "ungodly" is going to turn them away from ever wanting to know anything about God, much less accepting Christ as Saviour. We should demonstrate God's love for us by the love, care and compassion we show to others. I know that hell, eternal damnation, and the judgment of God are real, and people need to know that as well as God's love, but we need to remember that God is the judge and jury, not us. I've never seen anyone WANT to know Christ, by another person being judgmental towards them, usually it has just the opposite effect. We should do our best to be like Jesus and from what I am blessed to know, he loved me and had compassion and mercy for me, when I was unlovable and ungodly. I praise Him for that! We need to tell others that "Whoever will call upon the name of the Lord will be saved." Romans 10:13 In my prayers I pray to be more like Him and reach those who don't know Him as Saviour. We need to lift our eyes and see that the fields are ripe for the harvest. Romans 4:7&8; "Blessed are those whose lawless deeds have been forgiven, and whose sins have been covered. Blessed is the man whos sin the Lord will not take into account." We need to spread hope to those who don't know Him, not condemnation!

Sharkee,

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Notice how the election of Obama has brought all the ungodly out of the closet? They feel impowered by such an ally in high places.

mck48, Thsnks for the post. I know mean well and everything, but what you wrote is just not true. It's made up.

sharkee,

You say in your last post "Even when I was a born again Christian in high school", you either are or you aren't. Strictly by reading your posts I can only believe you aren't and you never have been. Why are you trying so hard to defend something that you don't believe even exists anyway? Jesus Christ died on a cross for all of us. All of us have sinned and come short of the Glory of the Lord. Sin is sin. God loves us so much that he sent Jesus his only Son to do this for us. All we have to do is believe and accept this gift he gave us so freely. All he wants is a relationship with us. When you are "born again" you will want to live a different life. Will you be sinless and perfect? Absolutely not! There was just Jesus who was sinless and perfect and he took on the burden of our sin, so that if we believe we can have eternal life. Make no mistake sharkee, I pray you don't! Christ is coming back again, we don't know the time or the hour, but He is coming. The thing of it is though, is that our time here on earth may end before He does return. I pray you will come to know Jesus before it's too late. Hell and eternal damnation do exist, but thankfully for those who know the Saviour, so do Heaven and Glory! I will pray you chose Jesus Christ. He loves you so very much!

Allison, it wasn't any one thing that caused me to turn from Christianity. It was a lot of things. Even when i was a born again Christian in high school, I knew that there was no world-wide flood and no Noah's Ark. i wasn't even a skeptic at all and I thought to myself; if the Ark landed, with all those animals from all around the world, on a mountain somewhere in Turkey or the Middle East, then how did they get back to their native habitats? For example, the polar bears: how did Noah get them to the Ark in the first place, and when the Ark landed, how did they get back to the artic? What did they eat? What about animals from South America such as Anacondas? So I knew the Flood and the Ark stories were lies, or myths, from very early. But i was told by Chrisyans that I had to believe. I had to have faith. What crap.

But the flood story was no big deal. A much much bigger problem; As a Christian I thought it was important to spread the good news of Jesus' death and resurrection. I beleaved that if a person were not saved then he/she was condemned to hell. I always had a bad taste in my mouth because I knew it was wrong. The idea that god would punish people-sincere and good people-who do not have the correct Christan belief, to eternal hell, that; that is the most evil concept I can even think of. What Hitler did does not even come close to the evil of eternal hell. Heck, most of the Christians I knew believed that the Jews, who were so horribly killed by the Nazis, went to hell for eternity because they were not saved. You wondr why I'm not a Christian. Are you kidding me? So many Christians around so self assured Christians around and who go on beieving that crap. Give me a break.

But most moprtant, the central tenet of Christianty; that Jesus was crusified dead and burried for three days; that he rose from the dead, walked around and talked to people, and then floated up into space, is a lie. You expect me to believe that? Think about it, it's ridiculous. And one of the Gospels reports that the dead (zombies) came up out of the ground and walked around. The Bible actually says that. Yet preachers try to get us to believe. Man, crazy. So you see, it's nothing that happened to me. I just can't believe what i know ain't true.

And Sharkee, you obviously have some knowledge of God and the Bible... so what really happened in your life that made you turn away from God?? if I were a betting woman, I would say there is something very specific that He possibly is getting blamed for??

Sharkee, let's just say you believe what you believe and I will do the same. If you want to put your eternal soul up, then so be it. I'm not taking any chances. MY GOD wants us to have faith that He is there and that He will come back...that is what He promised and that is what I choose to believe. Maybe it won't be in my lifetime, your lifetime, my children's lifetime, or my grandchildren's lifetime... but it will happen.

We could go back and forth on this over and over, but like I said, you believe what you want and I will too..

Bosephus, you are right, I do not know if I'm going to be living in five or twenty years. But I'm dang sure Jesus ain't coming back, and I'll bet anything on it; money and my soul. Just watch and see if he does.

At least give me this. When these fools, who are proclaiming that these are the end times, are shown to be wrong, at least hold them accountable. Don't let them keep saying stupid crap and get away with it over and over again.

And I will not turn to god, at least not the god of the Bible, because he does not exist. Sorry!

Does God really ask us to give up our possessions and go to the mountain top and await for His arrival?? If he does or has, I wasn't aware of it. What I have been taught is that He will come back "like a theif in the night" and no one knows the time. So I think people that are right with God and ready to go can just sit in their homes, surrounded by their possessions and wait!

Allison, maybe god does not ask Christians to give up their possessions and go to the mountain top. But a lot of Christians are proclaiming that these are the end times, just like they have for 2000 years. If they really believed it, would they be living as if the world is going to go on the way it always has? They are hedging their bets just in case Jesus dos not come back soon. And this is what's really important; there is no god and no Jesus, and he ain't coming back no time. See I'm so sure that I'm putting something up; my eternal soul.

And do you not remember Jesus' desciples and the Apostle Paul? Following Jesus' death, they were so sure of his second coming, during their lifeimes, that they gave up everything.

He actually told then that he would return during their lifetimes. What a joke!

Sharkee, Noman knows but God himself when the world will end, so maybe only a fool would bet on the end of the world? How do you know if you will be here in 5-10 years. No man is guaranteed tomorrow. You need to turn to God before its too late. If not God will look at you from his judgement throne and say "depart from me, I never knew you" and you shall be cast into a lake over erternal fire. You laugh at this, but do you truly want to chance it? Turn to God.

Let's see if the Editor is willing to post this?

Does God really ask us to give up our possessions and go to the mountain top and await for His arrival?? If he does or has, I wasn't aware of it. What I have been taught is that He will come back "like a theif in the night" and no one knows the time. So I think people that are right with God and ready to go can just sit in their homes, surrounded by their possessions and wait!

How can people get away with writing that the Christian god, portrayed in the Bible, "is the same yesterday, today, and forever? That he doesn't change? Simply not true. In the Old Testsment he was a God who directed the Hewbrews to kill their enemies, men, women and children. He was a god of genocide. He was also a god of rigid laws. Think not? Then read the first five books of the Old Testament. He was also a physical god, who I think atually physically wrestled with Abraham. But, he was not a condemning God. He didn't condemn those with different beliefs to eternal damnation in hell. The New Testament god (now not simply a single god, but a trinity), is not a god for just the Hebrews. He's a god for all nations. He believes in loving ones enemies and not killing them all. All the sudden, god, or the son of god, is a man. And most importantly, he is a god who condemns people who do not believe the right thing (that Jesus died for our sins), good people who hold heart-felt beliefs, to eternal damnation. I cannot think of a more evil idea. Eternal damnation is evil. How can good people believe that a just and good god would do that?

And as far as the world coming to an end? It ain't gonna happen. Just watch and see. These people pushing the end of times crap are not giving away their possessions and moving to the mountain top to await the second coming, because they don't really believe it. I'll bet anyone,anywhere that the earth and the nations will still be around in five years; in ten years; in twenty years; in fifty years. You reckon any of these confident Christians will take me up on my bet? Not a chance. It's bull crap