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Mr. Murray cannot stop himself from demeaning and personally attacking elected politicians that he doesn’t agree with.

After the President was elected, Mr. Murray wrote several warm and fuzzy letters, seemingly asking that the President be given a chance and that we show him the respect and deference due him via his position. Something he never did for President Bush and can’t now do for Sen. Hagan.

Billy Moss is correct, Medicare will be cut; old people will be the first cut. The entire plan is based on tax money, can the patient work and for how long and how much tax money can they pay over the years after the care.

Employees of the government will decide the level of care. Hundreds of thousands of Canadians come to this country every year for care. They mortgage their homes so that a family member can receive immediate care. One million people in Canada are on the waiting list for various surgeries with 200,000 are waiting to go on that list. Mr. Moss is again correct on the “end of life counseling, It is not just a living will as Mr. Murray would have us believe. Does anyone think that we will get the doctor we want or that we’ll have the best doctors. If doctors can’t compete for our dollars, then where is the incentive to be best. It appears that all of us with insurance will be forced, to give up what we are satisfied with so that 45 million without insurance can be covered.

Barbara Leviner Jackson

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DanaSauls
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August 05, 2009
Alright Bonnie, I've read the "Health Care Solutions Group" plan for health care reform, aka the Republican alternative and I must say, they do a great job of rewording what we already have, and making it sound like a new plan.

So, we give tax credits to small business's and call it health care reform? And tax credits to low income individuals, don't we already have that? YES!

Now here's the part I loved so much "reduce costly, unnecessary defensive medicine". The reason I find this so outrageous and almost amusing has to do with the spin on it. Lawyers are not the cause of insurance companies requiring 4 different procedures before you ultimately get the the one you need!

You see, I don't want to see a reduction in the insurance agents hand in my health care, I wan to see it eliminated! My insurance agent is not a doctor, therefore they have no business telling my doctor what procedure or medication I need!

This one also stood out to me, "Provides Medicare and Medicaid with additional authority and resources to stop waste, fraud, and abuse that costs taxpayers billions of dollars every year."

Now exactly how do you take that and turn it into, the democrats want to cut Medicare?

Bonnie, honestly, this little paid for ad is nothing but an attempt by the Republican party to keep their pockets full by the insurance and pharmaceutical lobbyist!

While we're at it, let's look at who Roy Blunt is. He's a birther! In addition, he's said on several interviews that Medicare shouldn't exist. So, how can you believe that and protect Medicare at the same time?

And while I'm at it, let's get the facts straight on this little ad against health care reform which Bonnie refers to as the "Republican plan". It's not a plan, it's not a bill, and Blunt himself has said it would never be put out as a bill, so what is it really? It's an attack ad!
Bonnie Wheeler
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August 04, 2009
Sacred Heart University, Zogby, Rasmussen and others and BBC (most trusted nationally - news media)also reported it.
Hamletresident
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August 04, 2009
What recent pole would that be Bonnie, the one conducted by the S.C. Republican Party or the one conducted by Fox
DanaSauls
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August 04, 2009
Bonnie... the people are already in charge, so exactly how is that different. I'll look it up and read the 3.5 page document so I can see how the reworded what we already have.

As far as debunking your facts, that's not very hard to do considering it's not fact. You do know the difference between fact and opinion right?
Ron_Sr
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August 04, 2009
Bonnie, Bonnie, You would trust a Corporate Executive who makes his millions by denying health care treatment to people who pay premiums. But you think the very people you voted to elect, Lindsey Graham and Jim Demint, plus the numerous members of the House of Representatives are a bunch of crooks. I mean, I understand your family values Governor Sanford is such an upstanding example of the people you have trusted.

When you get sick, Bonnie, and you go to a doctor, how do you pay the bill? That's right Bonnie, you pay it with your Medicare card. A socialist medical program opposed vehemently by your precious Republicans, passed by Democrats and signed into law by Lyndon Johnson.

And your remark about YouTube. The entire contents of the remarks were left out. Only those that would provide you with the twisted fuel you crave were included. Of course, that is the only part that matters to you and the other knuck dragging trogladytes from the Party of NO!
Ron Sr
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August 04, 2009
Bonnie, how do you ever debate anyone. This is not a debate forum, it is a comment forum. You post your twisted right wing Me 1st baloney and people rebutt what you say. But you don't debate it. In your world you are right and if someone disagrees with you then they are wrong. That is not a debate, that is a self important person carrying water for the corporate masters that you love so much.

You read like a bad novel. Some day you and your ilk are going to stand before your maker and when He ask what you did for the least of these your brethern I wonder what you are going to come up with. They were lazy and ignorant and didn't deserve help from your the wealthy greedmongers you promote?

What kind of a world do you want to leave, Bonnie? One that is better because it helped those less fortunate or one that exist with two classes of people, the dirt poor and the filthy rich.

How do you feel about a black man of partial African descent, married to a woman who is a descendant of slaves, and their two black children living in a White House build by slaves?
Bonnie Wheeler
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August 04, 2009
Dana- I get my information sometimes before Fox does.

I'm a subscriber to ABC, NY Times, The Globe, Washington Times, Washington Post, NewsMax, Fox, BBC. beside all the local news. I definitely do not watch CBN or CBS...They have been known to hide the real truth and air false documents. For every letter I write for the papers I verify it with at least three sources.

According to recent polls, Fox has been voted most creditable in reporting the facts.

Tell me - where do you get your information? Does it all come from Left-Wing and the most secular media. Perhaps you should start watching the one that has been voted most Trustworthy- Fox.

You always seem to take the side of the Left-wingers.

And Dana, I don't blame you for not wanting to debate me. What you are really saying is that you can't disprove anything that I have written so you are going to surrender along with your attacks- calling me old and set in my ways. There is nothing wrong in being steadfast and never backing down from what is right and age brings much wisdom.

I've gained much wisdom with age and you can never rebut anything that I write I challenge you to find anything untrue in what I write.

BTW..did you research the Republcian insurance plan that you said did not exist? It is only

3 1/2 pages and it is very easy to understand and it is a much better plan..It puts the people in charge instead of government.

DanaSauls
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August 04, 2009
Oh dear Bonnie, it's worse than I thought, Fox news isn't giving you what you want to hear so now you're only getting your news from you tube and right wing blogs.

Bonnie, have you ever considered this, you can't believe everything you read on the Internet. Heck, you can't even believe everything you see on the news.

As for Obama, I just don't know how you can keep a straight face as you type what you type. You talk about criminal, just look at the Bush administration you still support and defend.

I'm not even going to try to debate this with you, you are too old and set in your wrong ways.
anonymous
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August 04, 2009
I have sent three blogs to this site and none of them have been posted the little wheel just keeps spinning for like 30 min. Why?

Bonnie I don't need to refute R. Limbaugh, Bill O'Oriley, and Beck. Chris Matthews and Keith O. are doing it on a nightly basis for us. They are showing tapes of these people spreading their panic message to America and giving documented facts to refute them!
bonniewheeler
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August 04, 2009
Now Ron, to address your remark about the youtube that I use to prove my point. When you hear the words spoken by a person, there is no way for you to deny them, which oftentimes some of you do. Bonnie Wheeler
Bonnie Wheeler
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August 04, 2009
Ron Ron you wourl trust a bunck of crooks in Washington who have become wealthy off the backs of the American citizens but you don't trust insurnce companies?

Obama has added to his collection of Czars at least one jail bird who is also an admitted Communist. Obama remains true to his past anti-American views.

The media has kept this well hidden. Not even Fox has reported it.

Van Jones own words "I met all these young radical people of color — I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, ‘This is what I need to be a part of.’”

But then that's what Obama has embraced throughout his life. Jones is William Ayers without the bombs.

Trusting a president who would add to his list of Czars these kinds of people doesn't make an awful lot of sense.
Bonnie Whee;er
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August 04, 2009
Yes Ron, I did protest against the forcing of pharmacy insurance. I knew that it would drive costs up for the medication and it did just that.
Mike Hall
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August 04, 2009
It really saddens me to see my fellow americans slamming each other here in this forum. The political platform seems to be very happy to have the united states divided. While we find fault in each other we give more power to those who are suppose to serve us. We are not dems, nor reps for Gods sake we are Americans. Why cant we all just get along and not look to critize each other and find flaws in each other? God bless OUR America.
Ron Sr
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August 03, 2009
Thanks, Tom Sawyer, I am glad you agree with me. I made the decision myself so my children and grandchildren won't be able to deny my wishes.

Have you done as much for yours?

Maybe you, Becky Thatcher, and Huck Finn could all use the same lawyer and get a discount.
tom sawyer
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August 03, 2009
I did not know there were so many liberal, commie, athiest in Richmond County.
anonymous
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August 03, 2009
Ron. I lived long before i had benefits or insurance just fine. It's only when government gets involved that prices escaltat and one is forced to rely on government.

Dana - Health care plan by Republicans was given to reporters on Wednesday June 17 2009 - it was 3 1/2 pages and very easy to understand - unlike this one that we have not seen yet.

As one Democrat Senator said, three lawyers together couldn't understand it so why read it?
osamaobama
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August 03, 2009
I dont seem to be able to post in my former name, so now I am tom sawyer. Ron, yankee go home and take your Obama healthcare rationing plan with you.
tom sawyer
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August 03, 2009
Ron, I dont want you to be hooked up to a machine either.
Ron_Sr
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August 03, 2009
Mrs. Wheeler, did you protest loudly when the Republicans turned the Medicare Part D program on prescription drugs over to the Pharma Companies? It is the reason that Medicare is facing financial problems. They make top dollar on the drugs they sell. Do you pay Medicare Taxes, Bonnie? I do.

Funny thing is, the Democrats say that they are not going to cut money from Medicare and your Republicans say they are going to. The Democrats say they are going to crack down on doctors and hospitals who are defrauding the Medicare system and your Republicans don't want to help.

No wonder your party is being labeled as the lunatic fringe. Do you resent the fact that a black man, born in the US, with a father from Kenya, married to woman who is a descendent of slaves, and their children, live in the White House built by slaves?

The majority of people living in the south, which includes you, believe he was not born in the US. What do you believe, Mrs. Wheeler?

And when was a Republican ever compassionate. Look at the history of your party, Mrs. Wheeler. What have they ever done to help anyone in this country except the Corporations. And Corporations aren't people.
Ron Sr
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August 03, 2009
Ya jus don get it, does ya, Mrs. Wheeler...

Some guy reads a bill with a biased jaundiced eye, makes a video for youtube.com and you post it as facts. Yea Right!

Then instead of trying to work with the Democrats in Congress to Reform Health Care, which a majority of Americans agree needs to be reformed, the Republicans send out a message to their base to disrupt any meetings. The act like a bunch of idiots. Knuckle dragging fools.

Did you attend one of those meetings, Bonnie? You have Medicare, socialized medicine. How do you feel about all of those people, who through no fault of their own, lost their health care? Do you endorse the Republican plan that say, Just Die!?

Your side keeps saying they aren't included and then the only thing they put forward is a My Way agenda. No debate. Mob rule. Is that your vision of America, Mrs. Wheeler, Mob Rule?

These letters always turn into one thing, an opportunity for you to push your twisted view of how life should be for everyone but you. You seem to think that your words are so profound. Well, if you think that, God Bless you. You are just so Self Important, aren't you?

Read your biased views, watch your biased little videos, bounce around in your chair because someone provided you with fuel for your twisted logic, and then push your facts.

Trust me on this, Mrs. Wheeler, no one cares.

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