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by Judy Andrews
Dec 14, 2010 | 1278 views | 14 14 comments | 3 3 recommendations | email to a friend | print
Dear Editor,

The Messiah’s birth ... was it on Dec. 25?

Not once does scripture teach believers to celebrate the Messiah’s birthday. What is found in scripture is reference to pagan practices (Jeremiah 10:2-5 “...Thus said Yahuah, do not learn the ways of the heathen,...”) of what today is a whitewashed “Christmas.”

The Creator wasn’t pleased with the practice then. Why would He be now? What does Luke 2:2-8 say? The real message of Messiah’s birth! In Judeah the rainy/winter season extends from October to early May and peaks in December through February (Song of Songs 2:10-11).

The average low temperature for the month of December in Bethlehem is 42 degrees F. and 39 degrees F. for Natsareth at night with a much lower chill factor. Shepherds do not watch or expose their flocks or themselves to these conditions. So we find that shepherds would not be living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flocks by night.

“And it came to be in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus...” This would not have taken place in December as it was the time of the winter solstice which was a pagan holiday period (a time of celebrating and debauchery). You know the government would not be left out of this and have to devote their time to registration or census for taxation for all the world. Google: meaning of Jeremiah 10:2-5).

Google: when was messiah born. May YAH bless

Judy Andrews

Rockingham
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December 27, 2010
I am celebrating the fact that He was born! We could go over all the holidays and find paganism in each one..like Easter...but we..as Christians feel it in our hearts. If we want to celebrate his birth, I am sure God is not up there ready to smack us all down. I am just so glad he came. Amen
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December 19, 2010
Sharkee

So you are an atheist. In 1966 I was almost an atheist. I was a Presbyterian. I pretty musch figured there was a g-d outt there somewhere I just didn't care. I am now 67 years old and have had many life experiences, good and bad. I think you may be open-minded enough to really look at the evidence, Scriptural, hisyr Hysterical (i mean historical) and even archeologicaL. Call E Andrews at 910-461-2070.
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December 19, 2010
Bosephus,

I think we can safely say that Jesus was not born on December 25. There is a 1/365 chance of that. And that's not conting all of the evidence that suggests he was borm during another time of the year. If the day we celebrate his birth is wrong and a myth, and many of the traditions we associate with his birth are pagan, aren't we lying to ourselves and our children to say we celebrate Christmas because it is Christ's birthday? Don't we actually celebrate Christmas and all of the adjoining taditions for other reasons? I think we can safely say Christ is not the reason for the season.

And if Christians perpetuate this lie, can we not assume that many other things Christians say are true are also not true. Take, for example, the virin birth? Was Mary truly a virgin according to an accurate reading of the original Biblical words? Or is that just another lie being perpetuated by Christians who accomodate the lie by saying stuff like, "It really doesn't matter. All that really matters is that Jesus was borm."

As an atheist, I think it's all bull. But that doesn't excuse Christians from telling me stuff everyone should know is bull.

Have a great Christmas.

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December 18, 2010
The letter "J" means #1 and the latin word sus means "pig". so if His name is jesus does that mean He is the #1 pig. There is no "J" and no word for jesus in the Hebrew language. How can you translate a word that does not exist. See Yohanan/John 5:43-44. Shalom
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December 18, 2010
Luke chapter 2 shows Scriptural evidence that our Messiah was not born on December 25. Read the letter "Messiah's birth" again very carefully. If it's pagan it's pagan. If it's Scriptural it's Scriptural and is of Elohim and the 2 don't mix.
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December 18, 2010
What matters is what the Scriptures say and there is nothing in Scriptures that provides any evidence that our Messiah ever celebrated His birthday or anyone else's or that He ever approved of anyone celebrating a birthday. The most important thing that we can remember is His death, burial and resurrection. This is much more impotant than any birthday. Why do people celebrate pagan holidys as our Messiah's birth? pagan deities born on December: Mithras, Horus, Tammuz, Amen-rah, etc. The Romans celebrated Saturnalia during this time of year and the winter solstice, the death and rebirth of the sun also. I hope we can all agree that "all Scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness. That the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work." 2 Timotiyos/Timothy 3:16-17. See also Yirmeyahu/Jeremiah 10:1-5. If it is not Scriptural then it must be pagan and our creator does not approve of anything pagan (Shemoth/Exodus 20:3-6). It is time that we remove all things pagan from our lives. Rationalization or situational ethics is not acceptable by Elohim..
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December 18, 2010
Pagan dieties born on December 25: Mithras, Horus, Tammuz, etc. Pagan holidays: Saturnurnalia, winter solstice, the hreat-Norsemen feast. There is absolutely no Scriptural record of our Messiah ever celebrating His birthday or anyone else's. Why do we choose pagan holidays to celebrate our Messiah's birthday. In the letter "Messiah's birth" is scriptural evidence that our Messiah was not born on December 25. Scripture's speak for themselves and we need to spend more time in the Scriptures to find tyhe truth. If we are true believers we need to remove all things pagan from our lives. Our creator does not approve of anything that is pagan. We can rationalise all we want to but that does not make it right. This philosophy sounds a bit like situational ethics. Honestly, if it is not Scriptural it is pagan and I hope we can all agree "all that Scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work." 2 Timotiyos/Timothy 3:16-17.
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December 17, 2010
If thats true, then perhaps the old ( The fruit does not fall far from the tree) would apply.
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December 17, 2010
Bo, I think we can agree that Jesus was a pretty awesome fella who loved people and kicked arse.

Osama, attempt to stop failing. There are like 3 Caudles in R'ham and they pretty much think I'm fantastic, which is true. I am. I'm fantastic.
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December 17, 2010
DCaudle, I am sure anyone with the name Caudle in this area is glad you took your huge house plans and pay stubs elsewhere.
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December 16, 2010
But he was pierced for our rebellion, crushed for our sins. He was beaten so we could be whole. He was whipped so we could be healed.

Isaiah 53:5

I know you can't say this about Assange, Lenny Bruce, Lennon, and St Joan.

The goverment never will acknowledge someone sent by God. Yes Billy Graham has advised several presidents, but do you hear them say that Billy Graham is a true man of God? Nope. John Hagee said something about God sending Katrina. Everybody talked trash about him. When the antichrist arrives (and he will)he will be killed and raise up again three days later and the whole world will be astounded and the gov't and everyone will proclaim him to be God. But his reighn will be short lived and he will be sent to live with satan.

I will aknowledge that Jesus was refered to a radical. King Herod saw the babe Jesus as someone who might be a threat to his kingdom and he ordered his soldiers to murder all newborn males. Herod tried to use the three wise men to spy for him, but God spoke to them and they did not return to the ungodly king. Thats why Jesus was crucified on the cross. Because the majority of his OWN people thought he was a radical. They were given a choice of Pilate freeing Jesus or giving them a criminal Barrabus. They chose to free Barrabus and Jesus was nailed to a cross to free us from our wicked sins. This was God's plan. I'm not ashamed to worship this radical.
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December 16, 2010
Personally, I think that it's great that you folks celebrate the birth of a radical, socialist philosopher. He was a cool dude and his work lives on with the progressive movement.

Unfortunately, like Assange, Lenny Bruce, Lennon and St. Joan, he was castigated by the conservative government agenda.

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December 15, 2010
That we have chosen to honor Him is what matters No one knows the exact date of His Birth. America has chosen December 25th. The Reason for the Season is what is important and I hope we keep that in mind as we celebrate His Birthday on CHRIST-mas day.
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December 15, 2010
We all know that Christmas was set on December 25th and yes, the goverment probably had something to do with it. What difference does it make when we celebrate the birth of Jesus? You don't truly KNOW for a fact that Jesus was not born on December 25th. Nobody truly knows. We all need to quit nitpicking and just celebrate the birth of a baby that would grow to a man and be crucified and save us from our sins. THAT's what matters.
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