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A bill that would allow concealed weapons on college campuses, public parks and into establishments where alcohol is served has members of the local legislative delegation concerned.

State Rep. Garland Pierce, who along with Rep. Ken Goodman voted against the bill, said on Thursday that while he respects the right to bear arms, Pierce thinks that permitting concealed carry in places where alcohol is served is “going too far.”

“We all respect the right to bear arms, that’s America’s way, but when you start bringing guns around public places, where we have children or where we have alcohol — that’s a dangerous mix,” Pierce said. “I wouldn’t want to bring my family into a place like that, so I couldn’t support that bill.”

House Bill 937 would allow concealed carry weapons on college campuses, other state property and greenways as well as on bike trails, at sporting events and in businesses that serve alcohol.

As a former military serviceman, Pierce, of Scotland County, said that he is especially sensitive to any infringement on the rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment, “but when you start glorifying guns and bringing them into places where they aren’t traditionally carried, that’s a mistake.

“Just look at our restaurants around Laurinburg. Why would you want to bring guns into them?”

Pierce said that he sees the House bill as an extension of nationwide public concern about President Barack Obama’s perceived agenda with regard to gun rights.

“America as a whole is beginning to arm themselves because they feel like the president is trying to take guns from them. That’s the rhetoric you hear and their rationale,” Pierce said.

Goodman, of Rockingham, said that his dissent was based largely on common sense.

“I don’t think we’ll see a lot of shoot outs. It just seems prudent not to go there. It’s hard for me to see how having guns in places where alcohol is served as being a good idea.”

After considering the bill, Goodman said that he could understand and respect the arguments of those who supported it, but that he thinks the greater good would be served by not allowing concealed carry on university campuses and into establishments where alcohol is served.

“I understand that there’s another side (to the discussion) and I’m not opposed to concealed carry. I think it’s fine and there are a lot of places where it’s OK, but no right is absolute,” said Goodman.

A number of university presidents reached out to both Goodman and Pierce asking them to vote against the bill.

“They called us and said ‘Please, don’t vote for that bill because we don’t want guns on our college campuses,’” Goodman said.

The House version of the proposed legislation will now move on to the State Senate.

Sen. Gene McLaurin, of Rockingham, said that because he has yet to read the House bill in its entirety, he does not wish to make a final decision on it at this time.

“I do, however, have serious concerns about it, and I have been talking to and getting input from law enforcement and community college officials with serious concerns about it.

“I share their concerns about granting more access to guns in schools, restaurants, places where alcohol is served and other public places,” McLaurin said.

Reserving judgment on the bill until he reads it completely, McLaurin said that he will take into consideration the concerns of his constituents and the opinions of the community college officials and law enforcement professionals in his district.

“The bill may get changed some in the senate, as well, but I have serious concerns about it right now,” McLaurin said.

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6 Hours Ago
I know I'm late to the party, but I'll give my input. The fears and concerns regarding campus and restaurant carry are unsubstantiated. They are the same knee-jerk reactions you heard when concealed carry laws were first introduced many years ago, that allowing it would turn our towns into Wild West situations where people would shoot first and ask questions later, or people would shoot each other over parking spaces. These things never happened. Then the new, revised castle doctrine/stand your ground law came up, and these same knee-jerk reactions came, stating blood would run down the streets with all the shootings over simple arguments. Guess what? Nothing happened. Why should I, as a law abiding CHP holder, be forced to disarm and not be able to protect myself or my family while enjoying a meal at Outback or Olive Garden? Why should I be forced to leave my firearm in my vehicle where there is a greater chance it will be stolen as it is no longer under my control? There are already strict laws regarding consuming alcohol while carrying a firearm. It is not allowed. Period. Do the fearmongerers want us to believe that I will somehow turn into a maniac killer jut because I'm eating in an establishment that happens to serve alcohol? Do these fearmongerers honestly think that the law against carrying will stop someone intent on doing harm to others from committing their crime? Nope. All it does is ensure these maniacs have absolutely no resistance. What is the number one thing all recent mass shootings have in common? They all happened in places where law abiding citizens were stripped of their right to carry by some ridiculous gun free zone law. Coincidence? I think not. Think it's coincidence that the Aurora shooter drove 20 plus miles, passing three theaters that allowed legal concealed carry, to shoot up the one theater that barred its patrons from carrying? Nope. The only way he could make national headlines was with a high number of casualties. Shooting up a theater with legally armed patrons would hamper his goal, so he picked the one theater that gave him the best odds of not getting shot at. Gun restriction laws do absolutely nothing to stop gun crimes, because the people committing these crimes don't care about these laws in the first place.
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May 14, 2013
Controlling who can purchase guns is unrealistic. Background checks are a formality as those who have mental health issues not receiving treatment would pass under the radar. Laws governing crimes committed using guns need to be more stringent. For example, a person committing a crime while using a weapon would automatically receive five years to life. The three strike rule in Texas isn't so bad either. The punishment must be severe enough to deter the "average" person, however those who are "off" will still commit horrendous acts. Society in general is becoming more irrational and volatile. Commonsense is going by the wayside. Senseless acts are causing people to take measures to protect themselves and their families. Sadly, random acts of violence can befall anyone at any time: difficult to predict and prevent. Logically, having a gun locked in a vehicle on a school campus is not a deterrent in preventing a shoot out. How would you get to your weapon if you were in a classroom? Makes not sense to me. Carrying a weapon in restaurants and bars could be troublesome. I agree with Spickles that if you are CCW licensed, there are strict laws and regulations in place regarding using your weapon. Just because you have a CCW permit doesn't mean you can discharge your weapon "at will". Before you obtain your CCW, be sure you understand the limitations and rules BEFORE you go through the process of class and permit.
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May 14, 2013
Mywolf may be right...having a pistol in a locked vehicle in your car may not be a deterrent in preventing a shoot out, common sense has gone by the wayside, carrying in a bar could be an issue... He may be 100% right about his point...my points are this...CCW is fairly new to NC and when it came it was kind of a "trial basis deal" carriers were very restricted as to where they could carry and how they could carry... with that being said, the track records of incidents involved against a CCW permit holder in NC are nearly 0...If I were a college student and a Massacre was taking place by a nut with an AR-15... I'm pretty sure that I would think twice before I ran to my car and grabbed my Glock 27, But if I didn't have my pistol in my car because it was unlawful on college campus and no incident ever happened and I was killed at the Wilco-Hess getting gas later on....See what I'm getting at? My main point is less government and for politicians to educate themselves on issues instead of voting their feelings. I do know this... CCW in NC, according to statistics, has put the "common sense bad guy" in check (They do do think twice).
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May 14, 2013
I forgot to mention my main point! This bill does increase punishments for gun related crimes for both CCW and bad guys... right? That's was my main argument I failed to mention.That's why I think it is a one sided article...Played off to sound like "let the gun nuts have guns in bars and schools"....
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May 12, 2013
I respect Mr. Pierce and Mr. Goodman's position however I think Mr. Mclaurin shows true leadership qualities as a politician by "reserving his judgement". I say that account I can tell that none of the above are every day "concealed carriers". There are several points to the new bill that I would like to bring to light and I will try not to generalize the pro-gun vs anti-gun sides. The bill pertains to "concealed carry permit holders", with that being said I'd like to bring to light the "journey" it took me from being ignorant about every day carry to a daily routine. The first step is making the decision to become legally certified...some of you are saying "well duh"! but the fact is, once you become a CCW holder if you step out of line, just a little bit, with the strict laws that are attached to a CCW (remember this next word) "PRIVILEGE" , It's a FELONY. Most law enforcement, lawyers, and gun fanatics alike will agree with the fact that if you want or feel the need to use deadly force as a CCW holder,that you have much more to worry about than someone who shoots without a CCW permit. The statement Mr. Pierce says about the 2nd amendment is off the subject, remember that word? "Privilege".....CCW is a privilege granted to an individual from the Sheriff himself, not to be confused with the right to bear arms. If the reader would like to carry a pistol holstered to the local Food Lion in PLAIN SIGHT that it his "right". Mr. Pierce's statement about "glorifying guns" is off kilter also account the "Concealed Carrier" is very aware of the possibility of "printing". Carrying concealed makes it possible for the average law abiding FEMALE or male to stand in line at the grocery store behind a mother with kids and have a friendly conversation without making THEM nervous or scared...What I'm saying is, I don't want people who have negative opinions or are opposed to guns knowing I have one on me because I respect their choices. (I stressed "female" because I think every female should carry). Mr. Pierce's statement about allowing a CCW holder to carry in places that guns are traditionally carried is WAY OFF! Guns are carried EVERYWHERE! The main difference is as a CCW holder, we "unstrap" it before we enter the off limits areas because we don't want to go to prison. Mr. Pierce posed the question about the restaurants in Laurinburg and my reply is this.."1, I did think about the restaurants in Laurinburg and I'd have to say that I would especially feel better carrying in most of them than not armed. 2 If you want to feel warm and fuzzy about not allowing concealed carry in a public business then all you have to do is POST A CONSPICUOUS SIGN ON THE ENTRANCE 3. I'm still obligated as a CCW holder to obey that sign or face FELONY charges and it's STILL unlawful for me to consume ANY amount of alcohol. 4 I don't carry for the reasons that I can think of....I CARRY FOR THE REASONS THAT I HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF." I do thank you for your service with the armed forces and I do agree that America is starting to arm itself and that fear and panic from proposals the current administration has suggested has honed Obama into the best salesman that Wayne Lapierre could have ever hoped for. To Mr. Goodman "your" common sense may not necessarily match the common sense of a 21 year old female college student who lives in the dorm and was raped in the parking lot after class one night....Her common sense may have told her "It will not happen again". How about the waitresses out there in NC that carry their pocket books to work? You know, the places like OUTBACK, APPLEBEES, BONEFISH, CARRABA'S ETC.....They all sell alcohol, This change gives them the ability to legally arm themselves at work. Those university presidents you spoke of claim that CCW permits are unjustified on school property account of security guards in place and in the next breath claim that it would create a danger because car break ins are very common and you wouldn't want a thief having access to a gun.... So please explain to me..IF THE SECURITY CANNOT BE IN PLACE TO PREVENT BREAK INS, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO BE IN PLACE TO PREVENT A VIOLENT CRIME?, and as we all know that mass shootings NEVER happen in the "gun free" zone! To Mr. McLaurin, being that you are still of open mind...here is my suggestion. NC has a golden opportunity to attract new business... Mr. Pierce said so himself the "country is starting to arm itself".... research company's like "MAGPUL" giant arms and accessories company in colorado who warned Colorado... "pass the strict guns laws and we are moving our company" They did..... That MULTI MILLION DOLLAR FACTORY COULD BE BEING BUILT ON US 74 BYPASS. Magpul is by far not the only company that stands by it's principles in the guns world, and we could be soliciting them here to NC to create countless jobs. There are two sides but it's not "the gun lovers vs the gun haters" It's either a failed political structure whereas the week are dependent on big government to create an illusional snuggly blanket called "peace of mind" by creating more laws OR it's less government whereas each of us are responsible for our own actions. This proposed bill in no way allows CCW holders from disobeying CONCEALED CARRY LAW it only gives the law abiding citizen MORE FREEDOM to protect himself as all Free people should have the right to do. One last note to the opinions about Law Enforcement and Security.... They do a great job and I admire each and everyone for putting their lives in danger everyday BUT the chances of them being around when something horribly bad happens to one of you reading this is slim to none. I guess in a perfect world Rockingham would have a crime rate comparable to Kennesaw Ga. But then again in Kennesaw every family is required to OWN a firearm and ammunition for protection of city and self. About me, I'm 35 years, I did serve as a NCO in the 82nd Airborne, I once thought I could shoot, I once thought shooting 100 rounds a year was adequate, I once thought that I didn't need a pistol..I THOUGHT I KNEW ABOUT GUNS...ect.....wrong!it was only after I became a CCW carrier that I realized my ignorance. I currently shoot anywhere from 500 to a 1,000 rounds a week which I make on an American Made "Dillion Precision" XL 650 press. So if anyone has any extra "Brass" laying around I will be more than glad to take it off your hands. JRH
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May 13, 2013
"A number of university presidents reached out to both Goodman and Pierce asking them to vote against the bill."

WILLING TO BET ALL OF WHICH WERE MEN...

Now, to every female who has made it this far in reading, do one yourself one more favor and go to youtube...(whether or not you believe in guns)...type in "Amanda Collins" watch the video that is around 8:06...PLEASE SHARE IT ON FB...(I don't have FB but if I did it would be posted).... This is the Bill that the Daily Journal has tried to "one side" in a negative way....It passed the House without the help of Mr. Garland Pierce and Mr. Goodman.... now it goes to the senate and Mr. Mclaurin will have the opportunity to vote on it....As you watch it, think of Amanda Collins as being your daughter. Ryan Herndon

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